Tuesday, December 21, 2010

It's True, the sky is falling


I'm surprised my house isn't half way to Santa Monica by now. Last evening, a friend and I took a short walk around Devil's Gate Dam and talked to one of the guys in the tower. Their main concern was whether the water would jump the dam, because if it did, there would be serious flooding in Pasadena (and good luck with that Rose Bowl thingie you out-of-towners seem to like).

They were about to get in a boat and move the floats to try to hold back some of the fire debris that's still pouring from the mountains. That part sounded like fun.

New piece on Patch about water. And you can't talk about water around here without talking about Haha.




(I don't know why these pictures are all blue. Maybe because we were so cold.)

44 comments:

  1. You and the dogs can come stay with me. I live below sealevel, but we've figured out the dyke technology and, so far, it seems to be working.

    My word verification: "Inches" Hmmm...Freudian or ominous...?

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  2. At least the WV wasn't feet or yards.

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  3. good lord! heard from another couple of friends about all the rain. not very often y'all need to talk about boats to get around!

    ironic that they call those things "floats" when they'll sink to the bottom of the Arroyo quite quickly!

    I do recall a Rose Bowl when it had rained quite a bit and they brought in helicopters to hover over the field to dry it out...noisy for residents nearby for sure, and it looked pretty but still damp!

    and, we've got the dyke AND dike technology figured out around here too...I suspect the "water" technology is easier to handle...just sayin'...

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  4. Perhaps your camera is depressed.

    We're supposed to get some rain from your storm tomorrow. I miss it. I'll take it.

    Stay dry and may your home be floodless.

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  5. Too wet where you are; too dry where I am.

    Hope the rain lets up soon for you.

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  6. I think those of us in baja-baja dena are also safe. Also, we have an ark. I'm here if you need me--or barn animals. Strangely, they're clambering to me door, two by two.

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  7. I doubt the sky is falling, KB. That wood bee a downer for us in Pasadena becuz the sky is big in Pasadena!

    I think only rain or roofs will fall, which wood bee oK.

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  8. It's funny how weather can be so routine for one area and yet so difficult for another. We've had a foot or so of rain a couple of times in the past 5 years, and while it washes out roads, it's not the end of the world. We have a bunch of rivers and streams hereabouts, and so the water just gets absorbed. We also have levees in the Wilkes Barre, 30 miles south, and they'll hold water waaaay above flood stage.

    Good luck, and I hope your house stays dry!

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  9. Wow! That is a lot of water. Sure hope it subsides soon. I like the blue shots!

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  10. Blue shots? Someone say blue shots?

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  11. I'm 100 percent with Pierre on this post. Maybe your camera is depressed? Does it need a sun lamp?

    We are holding our breath for some rain. If you need to dry out, rescue yourself and your dogs and 'come on over!"

    WV: gratio.
    Is someone trying to tell you to be grateful for the rain? Or is this a term from the Messiah?

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  12. Love all the retro fashion photos on your blog.
    Sydney - City and Suburbs

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  13. Some get the water,
    some got the ....

    (wine, snow, cold or ...?)

    D.

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  15. Last comment, please note: I don't advertise on my blog. So neither do you.

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  16. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKETOX9UNWs

    WV: oozymicicu

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  18. AH, Do you remember back in about 1992 when Hahamonga flooded and all those trees grew up in the space of about 6 months?

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  19. LA County has a drastic plan for cleaning out the debris that has built up behind the dam over several years (because they haven't kept up with the necessary clean-up). They won't actually begin the work in earnest until early 2012, which means we've got two rainy seasons to go (including the current one) before they get to work.

    The reason their plan is drastic, by the way, is because it's an "emergency."

    When I asked the county guy what the plan was if we had a lot of rain this year or next, his answer was that we would "kinda be stuck crossing our fingers."

    That's a direct quote. I have it in my notes from the meeting.

    To take un-blue pictures, you need to set your camera's white balance in different light levels. I have a bunch of blue pictures, too.

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  20. "I'll have a blue picture, without you..."

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  21. How are the provisions holding up?
    You know, the fin de siecle brandy, the nero d'avola?

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  22. Hi Elena. Did they? I know yesterday I was showing my friend some of the places we used to ride -- which seemed so strange, because it was more flooded than we ever saw it. Including the old entrance to La Canada. It was gushing.

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  23. Dez, that brandy would be handy tonight.

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  24. I wouldn't worry about the water jumping the dam, AH. Way back in the wet winter of ought-six, the reservoir filled, and water flowed through the spillway for the first time in many years. There was so much water flowing, that the spray from it cascading down the spillway created a mist cloud over the 210 Freeway. It looked like Niagra Falls. The Arroyo handled the water without any problems.

    My recommendation is to break out the brandy and relax.

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  25. I'm bored. How about a good panic?

    And who said rain dances don't work?

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  26. Ah, but once over the spillway, the LA flood control folks will have "Lost control." That's what they said at the Hahamongna meeting. And you know they don't like losing control. They did admit that the uncontrolled water flow in 2006 caused no problems. Still, the channel by the Rose Bowl isn't very deep, and if it overflowed then they'd lose the extra parking spaces for the Rose Bowl game on Brookside golf course.

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  27. That's why they build it that way, Bellis. They have control of the flow of water except for very rare circumstances. All dams are designed with a spillway just for this purpose and the channel below will handle whatever it gets. I've lived in the area for 50 years, including long before the 210 freeway was built, and 2006 was the only time I've seen the spillway used. That year the Arroyo never got more than half full. The flood control guys just don't like not being able to control how much goes downstream. I guess it makes them look like they're not in control of the flood, which is what their title says they are.

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  28. Your comment about your house being half way to Santa Monica reminded me of an LA comic who said of the rain and mudslides, "When we say a neighborhood is going downhill, it's really going downhill." Stay dry, Karin. Good luck to you and your neighbors (at least the ones you like).

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  29. God gave Noah the rainbow sign. No more water - the fire next time.

    WV: chess. Your move.

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  30. And it's still pouring. It's easy for me to love it since I'm far away from mountains and landslides and floods.

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  31. I heard today that Californian's are staying home instead of Christmas shopping. Look for some killer sales post-Christmas.
    I hope you're still safe and dry. The dogs must be miserables - unless they're water dogs and then they must love it.

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  32. Hail, thunder, lightening! Guess I better drive out to Devil's Gate...

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  33. the winter of '85/'86 was a doozy as well. Spillway was active then too. Parts around Brookside and RB were pretty flooded---Rosamont up to Windsor/210 was closed for a bit due to flood and flow mud and if I recall correctly, parts of the Arroyo Blvd/Holly area were flooded and mudded pretty much too, as well as parts heading around Linda Vista up towards San Rafael/Annendale. I have vague memories of Altadena, La Canada (The Crest was closed) and Arcadia having issues of flood and flow then too. Brookside was NOT a happy camper about muddy parking for the Bowl, golfers were complaining for years about the after effects. SoPas' San Pascual ball fields had major issues as well as the stables being washed/mudded out for a while.

    It isn't the norm and there are struggles, but losing control of the canals...I dunno. I'd be more worried about the flood plains out in San B/Riverside below Waterman/San G areas than the spillway or Arroyo.

    Get the waders, shovels, rakes, chain saws and sand bags, stock up on supplies and worst case, work on growing some webbed feet? '85/'86 were survived, this too shall pass.

    I am, however, wondering how Haha (aka Oak Grove Park for us old timers) is going to fare having not been cleaned up. The "hoping we don't get big rainy season" thing never works too well. Guess we know how the "soccer fields" would fare now, eh? ;-)

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  34. I've said it before but ya'll seem to thrive on jumping from one natural disaster to another. Good grief Hiker. This is unreal. And as I told PB the other day, I know that bridge I think. Rode over it a few times and hope to see it again in early March! :)
    V

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  35. Living on a hillside as we do does creat some serious work during rains. Jim is out front right now in what we sometimes call the moat, pumping the water around to an area that will drain.

    The front gate is sandbagged. I invented, out of necessity, or I should say my brain came up with...kitchen garbage bags filled with kitty litter. We use them now instead of the sand filled kind every year. They are very lightweight and they do the job!

    If the moat gets water up to the foundation line, the water floods the studio downstairs. It has happened. We learned.

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  36. Jim reports that he saw some bubbles coming up from the hole next to the front porch. Then a very wet skunk emerged and ran to the side yard.

    We hope no one was left behind.

    (I see that I left the e off create in my former commment. Oops.)

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  37. It's so quiet all of a sudden. I think the rain stopped. I think we're going to survive. I love these photos. You could say it's your Blue Period.

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  38. Haha looks inundated. What a wet & wild season it's been! Your pics bring back fond memories of the many times my hubby and I used to hike the Gabrielino trail through the Arroyo Seco. We'd park at the lot overlooking JPL at Windsor & Ventura, and trek up from there. Must tell you about our weird (i.e., ghostly) experience at Oakwilde one of these days...

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  39. Checking in. What can I add? one more number to the count

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  40. Blue and scary! Good shots though!
    I hope you managed to stay dry and didn't have much damage.
    Happy Holidays to you and your family Karin...

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  41. The first photo looks like it's out of a Dasheill Hammett or Raymond Chandler movie.

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  42. Definitely the most important reason to not develop Hahamonga...the natural flood basin!!! Wasn't the El Nino in the late 90's, and didn't it go over the spillway???

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